Nominations

[rarepair_mod]

Nominations are now open HERE.

- For the purpose of this fest, a rare pair will be defined as a relationship that has less than 200 COMPLETED works of 1000 words or greater on AO3.

- In previous rounds of this fest, eligibility was based on fic from any archive. That means we had to check both AO3 and FF.net and any single fandom archives that were brought to our attention. This year, we are only checking AO3. That said, if a relationship had been previously rejected due to being too big on FF.net or a different archive, they are still not eligible. Please do not abuse this. We are doing this in good faith. If we accept a ship that's large on a different archive, and it's brought to our attention, we will remove it.

- Each person can nominate five fandoms and six relationships per fandom.

- Nominated relationships can also include threesomes/moresomes.

- Crossover nominations are welcome. Please nominate them under the fandom "Crossover Fandom" and include in parenthesis the fandom for each individual in the pairing (ex. Harry Potter (Harry Potter)/Sherlock Holmes (BBC Sherlock)).

- Real person fiction (RPF) may be nominated with the following caveats:
a.) Nominated characters must be 18 or older.
b.) Living non-famous persons may not be nominated (for example, someone's wife or child).

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

If I notice a pairing has been approved which has more than 200, 1,000+ word completed stories at AO3, should I assume an argument has been made as to why it has been accepted? Or should I mention it here?

[rarepair_mod]

Please mention it!

[shadowsapiens]

For checking eligibility, will you be filtering for works in English or counting complete 1k+ works in any language?

Thanks for running this - I'm excited to start nominating :)

[rarepair_mod]

It's in any language.

[(Anonymous)]

Can we nominate Canon Character/Original Character ships, such as Tony Stark/Original Male Unicorn?

[rarepair_mod]

Definitely!

[mahmfic]

I have some questions.

1) How are you interpreting Marvel Cinematic Universe? Does that include all of the MCU tv shows as well? If there's a pairing that is in a tv show but not in the films does that mean it is a crossover?

2) In the ineligible list why are marvel and x-men separate categories since X-men is Marvel? This includes in my question about crossovers as well.

3) When you say characters need to be 18+ do you mean they have to be in canon or that when people write it they need to be aged up to 18+. How does this work with characters who have aged somewhere in canon? For example what if a character is mostly underage for a tv show's span but then in like the last season they are now an adult. Or what if the character's age is never stated?

4) How are you separating the Star Wars films, tv shows, and comics or will they all be under one tag? This is also a question for MCU and X-Men.

5) Why are you including any language in the 200 or less count when if I recall anything not in English is accepted for the fest?

[rarepair_mod]

1) TV shows should be nominated separately from the movies.

2) There isn't any specific reason. I didn't think to combine them when I changed the name from the Avengers to Marvel. X-Men characters of course shouldn't be requested under MCU but as a crossover.

3) This applies only to RPF. If someone wants to request RPF and ask for the people to be underage, they're welcome to.

4) They won't be grouped under one tag.

5) We've never filtered by language.

[ember_keelty]

For Dragon Age, I notice that Female Adaar/Cullen made the cut even though it's a subcategory of Female Inquisitor/Cullen, which is the most-tagged ship in the archive. Is that a mistake, or is it acceptable to nominate player character ships with that level of specificity even if a more general category of [Player Character]/[NPC] is off limits?

[rarepair_mod]

Totally acceptable.

[desertvixen]

Not even sure if any of these qualify as rare pairs (since the VLD fandom is super active), but several pairs that are part of Voltron: Legendary Defender have crept into Voltron Force:

Hunk/Keith/Lance/Pidge | Katie Holt/Shiro
Matt Holt/Keith - not sure if Matt Holt appears in Voltron Force
Shiro/Kuro/Keith

[rarepair_mod]

They're all rare. Thanks, I got them fixed.

[rubylily]

Under Weiß Kreuz, Kurosaki Hisoka/Tsuzuki Asato has wandered over from Yami no Matsuei.

I noticed they've been doing that a lot lately in exchanges. Maybe Tsuzuki/Hisoka got mis-wrangled somehow.

[rarepair_mod]

Thanks. I got it fixed. It does seem AO3 mistakenly lists Weiß Kreuz as a parent tag for the ship https://archiveofourown.org/tags/Kurosaki%20Hisoka*s*Tsuzuki%20Asato

[sirvalkyrie]

Harry Potter (Harry Potter)/Logan (X-Men) is showing up under various X-Men fandoms.

[evensteven]

It is showing up under Marvel fandoms as well.

[rubylily]

Under Gargoyles (TV), Brooklyn & Demona (Gargoyles) was probably supposed to be Brooklyn/Demona (Gargoyles).

Also, under Tsubasa: Reservoir Chronicle, Daidouji Tomoyo/Kinomoto Sakura wandered over from Cardcaptor Sakura.

Under X/1999, there are both Shirou Kamui/Sumeragi Subaru (X/1999) and Shirou Kamui/Sumeragi Subaru, the latter of which is wandering into Tokyo Babylon. As far as I know, Kamui doesn't appear in Tokyo Babylon.

Kuzuki Kakyou/Sumeragi Hokuto is under both Tokyo Babylon and X/1999, but I'm not sure which it was originally nominated under.

[rarepair_mod]

Fixed. Thanks!

I hadn't realized X/1999 and Tokyo Babylon were related fandoms. Since I don't recall which the last ship was nominated under, I'll leave it in both.

[(Anonymous)]

There are three platonic (&) ships in the Frasier (TV) section, and one under Defiance (TV).

Susan Pevensie (Narnia)/Boromir (Lord of the Rings) appears in the Chronicles of Narnia fandom, even though it is a crossover ship.

[rarepair_mod]

Fixed. Thanks!

[evensteven]

There are some & relationships in the tag set, I thought that only / relationships were allowed?

Typo in this crossover ship:
Clakr Kent (DC Comics)/James Tiberus Kirk (TOS)

Max/Nux and Nux/Max are the same pairing under Mad Max movies.

James Olson/Winn Schott Jr. (Supergirl TV) should be deleted because there's a typo and because the correct version James Olsen/Winn Schott Jr. (Supergirl TV) was nominated.

[rarepair_mod]

That's correct. They're fixed now. Thanks.

[(Anonymous)]

Under Crossovers:

"Leonard McCoy (Star Trek)/Sarek (Star Trek)" isn't a crossover

"Leonard McCoy (Star Trek)/Soval (Star Trek)" and "Leonard McCoy (Star Trek)/Thy'lek Shran (Star Trek)" don't specify which versions of Trek.

[rarepair_mod]

Depending on the version wanted the first could be a crossover.

I'll ask about them in a clarification post. Thanks.

[(Anonymous)]

Hi, I have a question about nominating a specific version of a pairing.

I would like to nominate Leonard/Raphael for TMNT (2007). The canonical shiptag is for all media types, and with filters it yields 229 fics: http://archiveofourown.org/works?utf8=%E2%9C%93&work_search%5Bsort_column%5D=revised_at&work_search%5Bother_tag_names%5D=&work_search%5Bquery%5D=words%3E1000&work_search%5Blanguage_id%5D=&work_search%5Bcomplete%5D=0&work_search%5Bcomplete%5D=1&commit=Sort+and+Filter&tag_id=Leonardo*s*Raphael+%28TMNT%29

But, if you limit it to this specific version of canon, you get 13 -- the majority of which are cases of people just tagging their fics with all the TMNT fandoms they could find: http://archiveofourown.org/works?utf8=%E2%9C%93&work_search%5Bsort_column%5D=revised_at&work_search%5Brelationship_ids%5D%5B%5D=430872&work_search%5Bother_tag_names%5D=&work_search%5Bquery%5D=words%3E1000&work_search%5Blanguage_id%5D=&work_search%5Bcomplete%5D=0&work_search%5Bcomplete%5D=1&commit=Sort+and+Filter&tag_id=TMNT+%282007%29

Would this be okay to nominate?

[rarepair_mod]

Except for rare cases where the canon setting and characters or relationship are vastly different from other versions, we don't limit the relationship tag to a specific fandom.

[rarepair_mod]

Fixed. Thanks!

[(Anonymous)]

James Olsen/Winn Schott Jr. (Supergirl TV)
Jimmy Olsen/Winn Schott Jr. (Supergirl TV)

is the same pairing.

[rarepair_mod]

Fixed. Thanks!

[(Anonymous)]

Hi, there are some duplicates under Still Star-Crossed (TV):

Benvolio Montague/Rosaline (Still Star-Crossed)
Rosaline Capulet/Benvolio Montague

Prince Escalus/Rosaline Capulet (Still Star-Crossed)
Rosaline Capulet/Prince Escalus

[rarepair_mod]

Fixed. Thanks!

[polkad0tting]

Hi! I submitted my noms a few days ago and everything except one fandom has been approved. (Thank you! I'm excited!!) The last fandom is still pending, so I thought I'd check in about it.

I submitted minor ships from Wonder Woman (2017). I'm wondering now if you don't want DC movies on their own, but would rather have a "DC Cinematic Universe" fandom to mirror the "Marvel Cinematic Universe" one. If so, I can certainly change the fandom name! I am personally only interested in the Wonder Woman (2017) ships I nominated (not in Diana in ships from other DC movies) but I can make sure to specify that in optional details if you'd rather.

[rarepair_mod]

We just hadn't gotten to them yet, but they've been switched to DCEU now.

[desertvixen]

Sorry, more Voltron Legendary Defender noms where they should not be (under Voltron: Lion Voltron, which is the tag that seems to be most used for 1980s cartoon Voltron):

10. Allura/Hunk/Shay - Shay does not belong
11. Allura/Kolivan (Voltron) - Kolivan is VLD
15. Hunk/Shiro (Voltron)- Shiro is VLD
16. Hunk/Vrepit Sal - Vrepit Sal is VLD

There's a couple that I think probably aren't supposed to be there, but they fit characters that exist.

[rarepair_mod]

Thanks! They should be fixed.

[(Anonymous)]

duplicated pairings

Kara Danvers/Maxwell Lord (Supergirl TV)
Kara Danvers/Maxwell Lord (Supergirl)

Hank Henshaw | J'onn Jonzz/Mon-El (Supergirl)
Mon-El/Hank Henshaw | J'onn J'onzz (Supergirl TV)

Marvel 616 and Marvel Comics are almost the same fandom, I'm not seeing any reason to make them distinct based on the pairings nominated? It would be like separating Avengers (2012) and Avengers Movies. Marvel Comics is the slightly broader umbrella fandom so you could probably just combine under there.

[rarepair_mod]

Fixed. Thanks.

616 is just one of the many universes in Marvel Comics, so unless the nominator says that's what they mean, we're inclined to leave them where they are.

[(Anonymous)]

If a ship is a few fics over the cutoff, but a vast portion of them are written by the same person, would that make it eligible? I know several exchanges have a rule like that (Yuletide for example), but I couldn't find it mentioned anywhere here. The ship in question would be down to just over 100 fics if the most prolific writer is filtered away, for the record.

[rarepair_mod]

Not unless they were posting a chaptered work with each chapter posted as an individual story or something of a similar nature.

[cypher]

Just a quick tag cleanup note - in the Fire Emblem Path of Radiance/Radiant Dawn section, there's a pairing where the disambiguator looks like it got pasted in before the last letter of the character's name:

Ike/Senerio | Sore (FEPoR/RD)n

when it ought to be

Ike/Senerio | Soren (FEPoR/RD)

Thanks for organizing this challenge!

[rarepair_mod]

Fixed. Thanks!